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		<title>Comment on Does ACO stand for Another Costly Option? by Marie Hruby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Hruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 19:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new law covering people under age 26 does not distinquish between students or dependents.  Under IRS, dependents cannot be claimed by parents once they acquire job, correct?
We have a scenario where a student graduated, no longer lives at home, got a job, and
refused health insurance from his employer because it does not cost him anything to be under our insurance .  The reason is, we fully funded it and he would have to pay towards it.  
Is this fair to us.  How can this law be so unfair?  Or is there anything new regarding
dependency?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new law covering people under age 26 does not distinquish between students or dependents.  Under IRS, dependents cannot be claimed by parents once they acquire job, correct?<br />
We have a scenario where a student graduated, no longer lives at home, got a job, and<br />
refused health insurance from his employer because it does not cost him anything to be under our insurance .  The reason is, we fully funded it and he would have to pay towards it.<br />
Is this fair to us.  How can this law be so unfair?  Or is there anything new regarding<br />
dependency?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Opening the Black Box (Part 2) by eric</title>
		<link>http://letstalkhealthcare.org/health-care-system/opening-the-black-box-part-2/#comment-1226</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your response Dianne.  I think there are a couple of points worth emphasizing to respond to your concerns about  &quot;older&quot; workers:

1.  Massachusetts law requires that the cost for the oldest person cannot be more than two times that of the youngest employee.  By way of comparison, the new federal health care law allows a 3 to 1 ratio which would mean that older persons would pay more and younger persons pay less.

2.  Last summer, a new law was passed as part of Chapter 288 which directs the Division of Insurance to implement a new pricing requirement that sets a &quot;ceiling&quot; on the premium renewal increase that an employer would receive.  Details are yet to be defined.  This new requirement  will help to buffer higher increases due to shifts in age.  Of course this will also mean that the actual cost above the &quot;ceiling&quot; will be passed along to all of the customers...thereby spreading out the costs to a much larger population.  

&quot;Age&quot; has long been a major variable driving insurance premiums and is well understood by brokers and employers.  So I don&#039;t expect this blog will drive changes in human resource retention strategies based on age (not to mention age discrimination). 

In the spirit of improving our health care system, we will continue to work on keeping details driving the cost of care and the cost of insurance transparent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response Dianne.  I think there are a couple of points worth emphasizing to respond to your concerns about  &#8220;older&#8221; workers:</p>
<p>1.  Massachusetts law requires that the cost for the oldest person cannot be more than two times that of the youngest employee.  By way of comparison, the new federal health care law allows a 3 to 1 ratio which would mean that older persons would pay more and younger persons pay less.</p>
<p>2.  Last summer, a new law was passed as part of Chapter 288 which directs the Division of Insurance to implement a new pricing requirement that sets a &#8220;ceiling&#8221; on the premium renewal increase that an employer would receive.  Details are yet to be defined.  This new requirement  will help to buffer higher increases due to shifts in age.  Of course this will also mean that the actual cost above the &#8220;ceiling&#8221; will be passed along to all of the customers&#8230;thereby spreading out the costs to a much larger population.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Age&#8221; has long been a major variable driving insurance premiums and is well understood by brokers and employers.  So I don&#8217;t expect this blog will drive changes in human resource retention strategies based on age (not to mention age discrimination). </p>
<p>In the spirit of improving our health care system, we will continue to work on keeping details driving the cost of care and the cost of insurance transparent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Opening the Black Box (Part 2) by Dianne</title>
		<link>http://letstalkhealthcare.org/health-care-system/opening-the-black-box-part-2/#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying very hard to wrap my head around all this. One question keeps haunting me....might an unexpected consequence of opening this black box lead to potential layoff of older workers to adjust the bottom line for employers. I&#039;m not sure I understand how the number figuring protects older workers...and let’s face it…older workers need to keep working... If only to pay for healthcare going forward....Can you explain this to me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying very hard to wrap my head around all this. One question keeps haunting me&#8230;.might an unexpected consequence of opening this black box lead to potential layoff of older workers to adjust the bottom line for employers. I&#8217;m not sure I understand how the number figuring protects older workers&#8230;and let’s face it…older workers need to keep working&#8230; If only to pay for healthcare going forward&#8230;.Can you explain this to me?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Opening the Black Box (Part 2) by John H.</title>
		<link>http://letstalkhealthcare.org/health-care-system/opening-the-black-box-part-2/#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>John H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, in addition to the cost drivers mentioned in your reply to Barry, and as a possible &quot;remedy&quot; to the ongoing issue of costly unnecessary care, it is your opinion that moving away from a fee for service payment model might impact the expensive areas of inpatient admissions and ER/ED visits?

I imagine that it is still way too early to tell if an ACO approach (or some other payment model) will have any impact, but given the dramatic numbers in Massachusetts (the numbers I&#039;ve heard are that approximately 13% of all inpatient hospitalizations in MA are deemed unnecessary, and as much as 50% of all ER/ED visits are unnecessary) are you of the thought that reforming the way providers are paid will have any significant impact?  Or is it more a matter of financially motivating the consumer away from these seemingly easily accessed service points by making it maybe not prohibitively expensive, but costly enough to make someone think twice, or three times, before they visit an ER or agree to an I/P stay?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, in addition to the cost drivers mentioned in your reply to Barry, and as a possible &#8220;remedy&#8221; to the ongoing issue of costly unnecessary care, it is your opinion that moving away from a fee for service payment model might impact the expensive areas of inpatient admissions and ER/ED visits?</p>
<p>I imagine that it is still way too early to tell if an ACO approach (or some other payment model) will have any impact, but given the dramatic numbers in Massachusetts (the numbers I&#8217;ve heard are that approximately 13% of all inpatient hospitalizations in MA are deemed unnecessary, and as much as 50% of all ER/ED visits are unnecessary) are you of the thought that reforming the way providers are paid will have any significant impact?  Or is it more a matter of financially motivating the consumer away from these seemingly easily accessed service points by making it maybe not prohibitively expensive, but costly enough to make someone think twice, or three times, before they visit an ER or agree to an I/P stay?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Opening the Black Box (Part 2) by eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry:

You raise many excellent points and the drivers are going to differ from state to state.

Without a doubt, the private employer and consumer sector is paying more for health insurance because of cost shifting due to inadequate government payments made to providers.  This cost shifting has been occurring for years and is largely built into the base rates.

Other drivers of trend are:

1.	High cost hospitals, typically those with very strong brands and geographic market power, are expanding into new communities and also establishing new relationships with some community hospitals that have difficulty competing.  These acquisitions, joint ventures and other arrangements also bring with them much higher fee for service rates that drive up total costs.  We have seen this especially in the area of outpatient diagnostics, outpatient cancer treatments, and new forms of specialist services that are distributed to community hospitals.
2.	The Federal Health Care Reform passed this spring is causing rates to increase for a change in covered services – no lifetime maximums, first dollar coverage for preventive services, coverage up to age 26, and others.
3.	State Mandates – some states are shifting previous costs funded from their tax revenues to health insurers…which then get passed on to private employers and consumers.  In Massachusetts, for example, costs associate with portions of childhood immunizations ($40 million +) were shifted to healthplans.  Also, effective January 1, 2100, certain intensive and early intervention services must now be covered under health insurance.

Moving away from fee for service medicine will help to deal with some of these trends, but continuing state and federal mandates, government cost shifting and excessive market powers have to be addressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry:</p>
<p>You raise many excellent points and the drivers are going to differ from state to state.</p>
<p>Without a doubt, the private employer and consumer sector is paying more for health insurance because of cost shifting due to inadequate government payments made to providers.  This cost shifting has been occurring for years and is largely built into the base rates.</p>
<p>Other drivers of trend are:</p>
<p>1.	High cost hospitals, typically those with very strong brands and geographic market power, are expanding into new communities and also establishing new relationships with some community hospitals that have difficulty competing.  These acquisitions, joint ventures and other arrangements also bring with them much higher fee for service rates that drive up total costs.  We have seen this especially in the area of outpatient diagnostics, outpatient cancer treatments, and new forms of specialist services that are distributed to community hospitals.<br />
2.	The Federal Health Care Reform passed this spring is causing rates to increase for a change in covered services – no lifetime maximums, first dollar coverage for preventive services, coverage up to age 26, and others.<br />
3.	State Mandates – some states are shifting previous costs funded from their tax revenues to health insurers…which then get passed on to private employers and consumers.  In Massachusetts, for example, costs associate with portions of childhood immunizations ($40 million +) were shifted to healthplans.  Also, effective January 1, 2100, certain intensive and early intervention services must now be covered under health insurance.</p>
<p>Moving away from fee for service medicine will help to deal with some of these trends, but continuing state and federal mandates, government cost shifting and excessive market powers have to be addressed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Opening the Black Box (Part 2) by eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:

Overall, we expect the Affordable Care Act provision that extends coverage for Young Adults up to age 26 will have a relatively small impact on our rates.  We are planning to see only slight increases in family size because the three states we serve (Maine, New Hampshire and Massachusetts) already have similar state mandates for young adult coverage.    We expect little change in subscribers average age. 

The Young Adult Plan through the Massachusetts&#039; Connector may see a slight decrease in growth rate due to decreased demand.  The same may hold true for Student Insurance.

The overall impact on our rates in this area is well below 1%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>Overall, we expect the Affordable Care Act provision that extends coverage for Young Adults up to age 26 will have a relatively small impact on our rates.  We are planning to see only slight increases in family size because the three states we serve (Maine, New Hampshire and Massachusetts) already have similar state mandates for young adult coverage.    We expect little change in subscribers average age. </p>
<p>The Young Adult Plan through the Massachusetts&#8217; Connector may see a slight decrease in growth rate due to decreased demand.  The same may hold true for Student Insurance.</p>
<p>The overall impact on our rates in this area is well below 1%.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Opening the Black Box (Part 2) by Barry Carol</title>
		<link>http://letstalkhealthcare.org/health-care-system/opening-the-black-box-part-2/#comment-1221</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 21:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric –

The CFO of a Mid-Atlantic hospital system in PA told a small group recently that his system’s cost per adjusted hospital admission rose 2.0% in 2010, down from 3.5% last year.  I suspect the results are similar in most places.  A CEO of a hospital system in NJ commented that his system’s inpatient admissions were down over 5% this year.  For insurers’ medical trend to be 10%, the cost shifting to make up for inadequate Medicare and Medicaid payments must be significant.  Yet, Medicare and Medicaid aren’t controlling their costs very well either, I suspect, because they don’t try to manage care and fraud is probably an issue as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric –</p>
<p>The CFO of a Mid-Atlantic hospital system in PA told a small group recently that his system’s cost per adjusted hospital admission rose 2.0% in 2010, down from 3.5% last year.  I suspect the results are similar in most places.  A CEO of a hospital system in NJ commented that his system’s inpatient admissions were down over 5% this year.  For insurers’ medical trend to be 10%, the cost shifting to make up for inadequate Medicare and Medicaid payments must be significant.  Yet, Medicare and Medicaid aren’t controlling their costs very well either, I suspect, because they don’t try to manage care and fraud is probably an issue as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Opening the Black Box (Part 2) by John H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric -

Based upon your final statement, &quot;If young people leave the group, annual rates for the customer may increase dramatically&quot;, do you and your Actuaries expect to see any additional rate pressure stemming from the relatively new rule that allows dependent children to remain on their parent&#039;s plan until age 26?

Looking at it from just a numbers standpoint it seems likely that the pool of younger Subscribers would shrink (maybe slightly; perhaps significantly) since they are no longer necessarily enrolling as Subs at the age of 21, 22, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric -</p>
<p>Based upon your final statement, &#8220;If young people leave the group, annual rates for the customer may increase dramatically&#8221;, do you and your Actuaries expect to see any additional rate pressure stemming from the relatively new rule that allows dependent children to remain on their parent&#8217;s plan until age 26?</p>
<p>Looking at it from just a numbers standpoint it seems likely that the pool of younger Subscribers would shrink (maybe slightly; perhaps significantly) since they are no longer necessarily enrolling as Subs at the age of 21, 22, etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Opening The Black Box (Part 1) by John Hamblin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hamblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Heather -

When I refer to &quot;first dollar plan&quot; I am using a simplified way to describe (basically) a non-deductible plan.  In other words, a medical plan that pays a subscriber&#039;s healthcare costs as of the first dollar without requiring the subscriber to initially satisfy a deductible.  Of course 99.99% of health plans in MA include some level of co-pay, whether it be a $10.00, $15.00, or $20.00 office visit co-pay, so the literal definition of &quot;first dollar&quot; has to be suspended somewhat.  I go back to the time when the HMO concept was fresh; you&#039;d walk into a staff model where all of your doctors were located, and probably your pharmacy too, and you might pay a $2.00 office visit co-payment.  That is really what a &quot;first dollar&quot; plan looked like.

Although I have not seen actuarial evidence of increased medical care utilization due to the existance of HRAs, it would not surprise me in the least if that were the case.  In Massachsuetts especially, employers are extremely generous when it comes to providing benefits.  (Something like 76% of all Massachusetts employers provide some level of health care benefits, while the national average is closer to 60%, and that national number is falling.)  Every employer I have ever worked with felt an obligation to mitigate the impact their employees would feel by going to a high-deductible plan, and quite frankly many of the employees at those companies seemed to believe that they were entitled to a continuation of &quot;the Cadillac comfort at a Yugo cost&quot;.  Not that I blame the employees, since we as an industry have spent the better part of the past two plus decades convincing them that all they had to do was show this ID card and everything else would be handled by the man behind the curtain.

Interesting that you used the word &quot;right&quot;.  I often wonder when the idea that employees could work to earn &quot;employee benefits&quot; became the belief that employees were simply entitled to &quot;employee privileges&quot;, because that is often what it feels like out there on the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Heather -</p>
<p>When I refer to &#8220;first dollar plan&#8221; I am using a simplified way to describe (basically) a non-deductible plan.  In other words, a medical plan that pays a subscriber&#8217;s healthcare costs as of the first dollar without requiring the subscriber to initially satisfy a deductible.  Of course 99.99% of health plans in MA include some level of co-pay, whether it be a $10.00, $15.00, or $20.00 office visit co-pay, so the literal definition of &#8220;first dollar&#8221; has to be suspended somewhat.  I go back to the time when the HMO concept was fresh; you&#8217;d walk into a staff model where all of your doctors were located, and probably your pharmacy too, and you might pay a $2.00 office visit co-payment.  That is really what a &#8220;first dollar&#8221; plan looked like.</p>
<p>Although I have not seen actuarial evidence of increased medical care utilization due to the existance of HRAs, it would not surprise me in the least if that were the case.  In Massachsuetts especially, employers are extremely generous when it comes to providing benefits.  (Something like 76% of all Massachusetts employers provide some level of health care benefits, while the national average is closer to 60%, and that national number is falling.)  Every employer I have ever worked with felt an obligation to mitigate the impact their employees would feel by going to a high-deductible plan, and quite frankly many of the employees at those companies seemed to believe that they were entitled to a continuation of &#8220;the Cadillac comfort at a Yugo cost&#8221;.  Not that I blame the employees, since we as an industry have spent the better part of the past two plus decades convincing them that all they had to do was show this ID card and everything else would be handled by the man behind the curtain.</p>
<p>Interesting that you used the word &#8220;right&#8221;.  I often wonder when the idea that employees could work to earn &#8220;employee benefits&#8221; became the belief that employees were simply entitled to &#8220;employee privileges&#8221;, because that is often what it feels like out there on the road.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Opening The Black Box (Part 1) by Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very helpful and imformative article.  Thank you, Eric.   I also appreciate the dialogue with John.   Can you tell me what you mean by &quot;first dollar plan&quot;?  I absolutely agree that there is value in the concept of &#039;skin in the game&#039;, and also believe that this is a major paradigm shift necessary for employees that regard healthcare as a &quot;right&quot; (and resist the concept that they should pay for a portion of this benefit).  

I believe that I heard that employer funded HRAs actually increased employees medical claims because employees wanted to &#039;spend&#039; these employer-provided dollars.   Can either of you comment on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very helpful and imformative article.  Thank you, Eric.   I also appreciate the dialogue with John.   Can you tell me what you mean by &#8220;first dollar plan&#8221;?  I absolutely agree that there is value in the concept of &#8216;skin in the game&#8217;, and also believe that this is a major paradigm shift necessary for employees that regard healthcare as a &#8220;right&#8221; (and resist the concept that they should pay for a portion of this benefit).  </p>
<p>I believe that I heard that employer funded HRAs actually increased employees medical claims because employees wanted to &#8216;spend&#8217; these employer-provided dollars.   Can either of you comment on this?</p>
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